The Getai, Makedon and Seleukia

Are we all agreed in an alliance against Pontos and their plans to bring in anyone it takes to help them become the dominant force in Asia Minor, and Asia itself. First they brought in the Saka and Parthians, now they threaten to bring Carthage to both your nation's doorstep just to give them a better launching spot for an invasion of Asia Minor and Syria.

Add in the bloody Greeks of Koinon Hellenon to that list. I spoke to Thermo only today. We're both in favour of alliance with Selucia.

Pontus has failed in the execution of his war entirely. Add in that he was a defeatest even when he seemed to be winning. Such a leader is not fit to lead an alliance. Especially one with no goal apart from destroying a nation for no practical purpose.

This peace is handy for it allows much re-adjustment. Hopefully Epeiros falls quickly, but that victory will be diminished if the Greeks do join Prah's alliance. It seems likely. They have 25K or so troops.

Maybe we should agree on goals initially and then plot them out once we agree. I suspect Thermo won't be on so much though, so it might be largely you and I Jack. Anything we do should naturally ensure the security of the Getai as well.

Well for the time being both of us need ot finish off our current enemies quickly. If I can deal Parthia a big blow this turn then I'll no longer need worry about them, especially since I have the Sauromatae (Rich) heading towards Parthia's northen lands, which I've promised them so long as they help me out (it's only one settlement at any rate). Then if you guys can crush Epeiros next turn it gives us a chance to actually re-assemble our forces ready to be attacked, or do the attacking if the oppurtunity presents itself.
Unfortunately, I have the annoying problem of the Saka as well, but hopefully with the Sarmartians en route to take over my war with Parthia, and the Emperor in India saying he'll send support to help against the Saka I won't need to send too many more troops to Baktria. Quite a lot will ride on how this battle with Parthia goes this turn though. If it goes poorly, then I'll have to spend a large chunk of my income recruiting troops in Baktria to take back my lost lands. If the battle is a big success then I can recruit small in Baktria and still afford to start building a navy, which I'm in dire need of.

Well, short-term goals are obviously defeating our current enemies. Middle-term goals (sorry for the stupid phrase), would be the destruction of Pergamon, I know this seems like a bit of a waste of time if we've got to worry about an alliance consisting of Koinon Hellon, Pontos, Ptolemy and possibly Carthage, but it is essential to open up a second front against Pontos, otherwise they can just block the mountain passes and prevent my 50,000 strong army from getting to their fertile plains and cities.
Long term goals would be forcing Pontos to become a satrapy of Seleukia and Koinon Hellon a province in the Makedonian empire. Ideally, we can link up our two empires. But I think it's agreed that Pontos are the threat here, without a leader their alliance will fall to pieces. I'm quite happy with the peace at the minute, but as we're all aware Pontos and Ptolemy are just biding time to bring in reinforcements and other foreign powers. I'm hoping I may have bought myself at least a year though. And I've got several schemes underway which could help me in crushing Ptolemy very quickly if they do try for war again. But I'll go into them tommorrow, when it's not gone 11pm and I'm not shattered.

I seem to have been pretty much up to speed with all you say regarding Selucid affairs apart from the Saka. I no absolutely zilch about them, I don't even know where they are based!

But I agree with your assessment. We need to sort out the local issues first. One positive is that I assume you have good relations with the Sauromatae. Thermo has had some concern on that front, so a quiet word will likely free up a unit or two. As you say Pontus is the link to the alliance. He actually has almost total control over the Egyptians as well, more or less making the alliance.

With regard to maknig a navy, buying one from Pontus/Egypt might be cheaper than building one. Do you want me to enquire as to what would be available from them? They see it as a cheap way of raising troops, but it in turn makes them all the more vulnerable of course.

The Saka are from the Asian steppe, they're based at the very north-eastern edge of our world's map. They've already made an enemy of the Indian Emperor though, and in so doing have allowed me to form an alliance with the Emperor so that we can drive the Saka out.

I have all locations of Sarmatian forces, and I can assure The Getai they have nothing to worry about. Their main army of horsemen are headed east towards Parthia, and most of their other forces are more concerned about Hayasdan moving further north than looking across their borders at the Getai.

Enquire about it. I really need at least enough ships to transport 8,000 troops next season, preferably I'd like to take 15,000 men to attack Pergamon. So if I was to buy ships from Pontos (through you of course), then add to them with some ships of my own then I'd still have money left over for fresh troops.

I see them now.

I've asked about the ships. I'll post soon as he replies.

Thanks for the statement regarding Thermon/Delphi. My reason for being pissed at that is because it could mean Pontus gets the Greeks as allies and it increases my border by about a factor of 10 to the Greeks. The Greeks could really put a spanner in the works for me, I have to admit.

fuckin hell, i posted a massive post in here and it didnt post!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Ok ill add my 2cents when i'm not so pissed off!

Ouch!

yup massive bummer lads! Sent you a pm though pleasy with some of the issues i'd like to get cleared up before i'm 100% happy

just to add Jack, so you don't think I'm being negative, i am in favour of the three of us working together most definitely, its just one or two issues to ensure this is perfect and balanced

I'm not sure Jack will give us 25000 troops for the honour of alliance with us.

Kidding!

Great emo's here!

Lol you think I have 25,000 troops to spare?

That's alright Thermo, I wouldn't want to get into an alliance with one of the biggest powers in the game without being sure of where it was heading.

Well with the ships now secure I can move a small army over to Greece, hopefully this can remain completely secret but it may be difficult with Pontos and Ptolemy's fleets positioned around Tarsos. How many infantry can be transported by ship? I tried looking in rules, but all it says is that cavalry take up x4 amount of room and elephants x15 (at least for my big indian elephants anyway).
Once my army finally gets there it can be used to help fight the Greeks, which would free up more Makedonian troops to fight Pergamon. However, my discovery of Hayasdan's close relations with Pergamon may have jeopardised our planned attack.

It's 200 infantry per transport or 50 cavalry. i'm pretty certain of that.

I checked this is it:

Ships

Pentekoteroi being transports for 200 inf or 50 cav each

Trieries being small warships

Pentereis battleships

ok Jack mate, you get this one for free while I sort out my big post again, but using the Sauromatae army to threaten Hayasdan would certainly stop him interfering with your move against Pergamon. He's a cautious cat and too small(and smart) to try fight two wars. Simply wait for your Parthian victory to be complete and recall the Saurs against Armenia

btw, Yeah i thought it was 200 infantry or 50 cav too?

anyways, to the big post!

I didn't know they could carry heffalumps!