The Getai, Makedon and Seleukia

I'll likely have around 15K or so, I'll look up in more detail exactly what I'll have after the Epeiros battles, but that figure seems fairly realistic assuming I leave large garrisons behind. A have a goodly amount of cavalry with much elite. Most of my cavalry is medium or heavy.

I appear likely to have a further fleet (from Carthage) which will allow us to land c.4000 troops. If the timing is perfect, Jack's forces will land and the ships still have enough move points to allow a further lift on the east coast. The Carthage fleet will be on the west of course.

The crews of the Carthage fleet have been told they will likely be working directly for the Getai. You can have those ships Thermo permanently if you want them.

I'll want my ships loaned to Selcucia back though Jack, as you can afford it!

It's already looking good since the KH have c.25000 troops. No more than that though. I think he lacks drive and possibly skill in war as well. I think if any of us were playing the KH we'd already be sieging my capital.

I'll likely have around 15K or so, I'll look up in more detail exactly what I'll have after the Epeiros battles, but that figure seems fairly realistic assuming I leave large garrisons behind. A have a goodly amount of cavalry with much elite. Most of my cavalry is medium or heavy.

15k is a reasonable number, considering much of your forces are pretty strong, professional types...plus you have the cavalry advantage if you can get into position to use it...though that'll be difficult considering the southern greek terrain

I appear likely to have a further fleet (from Carthage) which will allow us to land c.4000 troops. If the timing is perfect, Jack's forces will land and the ships still have enough move points to allow a further lift on the east coast. The Carthage fleet will be on the west of course.

that's fantastic news we need to work out pick up points and transport security too, since there are alot of epirote/kh fleets floating around ominously. Yeah, well as soon as epeiros is fucked over, i'm happy to begin sending troops south and have already got things organised so i can do it quick after, like i said, just security and pickups need to be thought out.

The crews of the Carthage fleet have been told they will likely be working directly for the Getai. You can have those ships Thermo permanently if you want them.

would i refuse such a wonderful gift? i think not! thanks mate, iguess it allows me a little more autonomy with the movement, which is a good thing!

I'll want my ships loaned to Selcucia back though Jack, as you can afford it! Laughing

It's already looking good since the KH have c.25000 troops. No more than that though. I think he lacks drive and possibly skill in war as well. I think if any of us were playing the KH we'd already be sieging my capital.

i think he comes from the arak school of caution. there are others from that school too, us three certainly went to a different, more aggressive school!! if we can hit him hard across the board, simultaneously, there is little he could to rescue the situation. He could be defensive and try defend everything or something... he'd still lose, or he'd be aggressive and maybe push north through the passes in a determined counter attack...that would be the worse case scenario and still isn't that disastrous since it make him vulnerable to your cavalry in the open

that would be the worse case scenario and still isn't that disastrous since it make him vulnerable to your cavalry in the open

If he breaks into my interior, it's likely the time will be Spring. Doesn't that mean we can recruit more troops? A small grant from our rich ally Selucia would certainly doom the KH forces in the open plains of Makedonia, in the event we're all tied up elsewhere.

Much more hinting about cash and I'll be going Reservoir Dogs on his Vault!

that certainly is true, i forgot that spring we would have recruitment. With that in mind I should have a whole bunch available to come south. Plus, when i defeat these bastarnoz raiders and sweep up the neutrals on the way, they'll be coming over to my side hopefully. Maybe I could have 20,000 plus troops in the peloponnese

Don't worry I have picked up your o-so subtle hints about money guys, but I'm afraid you may not be seeing much, or any of it this year. Remember I've had to pay 1,100 for a fleet, 3,000 gold has gone straight to Baktria's reseves so that I can recruit a new army there to drive out the Saka. As well as that I'm now going to bank rolling the Saby'n navy, which requires 1,500 gold. If I give him this sum for the upcoming recruitment then he can start moving his 30,000 strong army the same turn he buys his ships. So, recruitment is in spring (turn after next), which means that with my funding Gruanash could have his army hitting Egypt's heartland by next winter/springtime (about 6 turns, instead of the anticipated 10 turn wait). This is great news for me, as I'm fairly sure that within 4 turns Pontos/Ptolemy/Pergamon will have one reason or another for restarting the war against me. So, sorry guys won't be any money this year, as I've already spent 5,600 gold and this is without recruiting any fresh Seleukid troops.

However, I am bringing troops to help. There's a force of about 4,000 en route now, you just need to tell me where you want them. It's a decent division of hvy infantry, slingers and medium and hvy cav, so would probably complement Thermo's army mentioned above. Especially if you're lacking experienced cavalry, since I've got about 1,000 veteran cavalry. Apart from that, my main force will have to wait to be picked up by Makedon's fleet. You said you could hole 12,000 inf right pleasy? If that's the case then I'll probably send a nice compact army of say 7,500 infantry and about 1,500 cavalry, or possibly I may just bring some elephants west

[weeps uncontrollably]

Not to worry. Troops are fine. I think you should land those 4000 troops as per below:



There should be sort of free of prying eyes as much as anywhere.

The rest of my transport fleet is 39 ships (can hold 7800) but my other (new fleet bought from Carthage) could be used with 18 transports (3600 capacity) but they will be needed for Thermo asap. I'm actually giving Thermo those ships. I can send them if Thermo is ok with that for the now.

Overall, I'm just about lost with all the ships I've got now. They are so all over the bloody place.

Well if Thermo needs them asap then send them to him. It's not a problem for me if the 2nd wave is only 7,000 strong or 12,000 strong.

Might be difficult getting to the spot you suggested, as there's surely going to be KH ships and Pergamon's fleet lurking around the Aegean, and by the looks of your map it looks fairly hard to travel abouts the Aegean with all the islands, only directly north up line 471/481 looks like an easy route, and any commander with an ounce of sense will have ships nearby there.

Thermo will be on before the next turn. So he can tell us if they will be required immedietely. I imagine they will be for the western strike.

On where to land, bear in mind that he's unlikely to attack. I'd send one ship ahead to scout then follow up. Land anywhere you can in fact, or perhaps we should simply have the troops land on enemy territory? Avoid any delays that way. But that will require some coordination! I think we're up to that though!

they will indeed i'll need them to start ferrying a force to a nice, quiet, hidden place on the Peloponnese while we get ready for the attack. Then they'll be in place to simultaneously strike Sparta and Corinth

However, i won't need them for the next 2-3 turns since this is the timescale of the Epirote campaign

yeah, lots of ships, even epirotes in that part of the sea. I reckon take the seleukid troops straight to either rhodes or crete.... from there they are in position to quickly lauch the offensive when we're ready, as well as the other benefits mentioned in the other thread. Seleukia's complement sounds great, but if they are going to help me in the south, why land them so far north?

Yeah assaulting immedietely makes sense. Landing in Makedonia would likely add a full turn to the attack start date.

No problem with the fleet. I'll move them to you Thermo or we can just switch them over to your control. I'll tell you what fleet it is soon as I can be arsed waiting the 60 seconds for 8x view to load.

Well my troops are moving further west across the med this turn apart from that I've got nothing to do, unless I'm attacked.

My new satrap of Baktria appears loyal, he kind of has no choice for the moment with the Saka all over his northern territory, although I'm suspicious of him, mainly just because of past experience with LQ. Anyway, together with the Sarmatian attack LQ should have Parthia finished off in 2 turns, maybe less if he can force a decisive battle.

Are you guys moving on Koinon Hellon this turn? Or just securing Epeiros?

Tidying up Epeiros, moving troops for the attack on the KH. No attacks though.